Yeah, the study of Classics involves that study of language, first and foremost Greek and Latin language and all that's tied to the languages. So that would be literature, history, the products of culture that come from the Greeks and the Romans, architecture. And for a long time, in my career as a classicist, I've kind of led a double life. My wife and I built and run a farm, a sheep farm in Shoreham, Vermont and I've been doing that parallel to all the things I just descriptive to you, that a normal card carrying classicist does.

This project is kind of a merging of those two interests in my credentials as a professional classicist and my avocation as a farmer. And it's about the cultural history of these two quote unquote modern notions of these two concerns, for sustainability and complex systems or complexity theory. But the core principles of these two new academic disciplines are a hallmark of ancient Greek thinking and consequently of Roman thinking and so I'm tracing that trajectory back, you know, back to the pre-socratics, through Plato and Aristotle. Hesiod is a major player in this he wrote an agricultural poem called "Works & Days", our farm is named after that poem, Works & Days Farm.

And so these notions of sustainability, living within limits, encouraging limits by means of social pressures or incentives, understanding one's place in the world as part of a complex whole and not as some sort of individual separable entity and I think of Aristotle and repose and I think about what I'm doing, when I'm doing it so I don't lose a limb or life or something else when we're putting up hay or, you know, doing whatever we're doing.