
Marble bust of Homer: a Roman copy of a Hellenistic
statue that is lost.
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First, submit, on paper, a quiz question you would like to
see on the quiz, because you think it is well formulated, fair, and
interesting!
Those who are remote and have written to me about it, submit
them via email to madeline.mcintire@uvm.edu
The quiz will be at the end of class: Madeline, Annaliese,
and everyone else, stop me about 7 minutes before the end so
that Madeline can reveal the quiz for us and students can take it.
Newbies to the class: Blackboard is used only for submission of
written material and grading. There is an announcement on
blackboard that has the address of this website, which is
the course website. We will use this website for the syllabus,
notes, and many other things. We will also use teams for
discussion and for those who are forced to go remote for a time.
Today, the plan is to talk about Iliad 1: please write down a
question or an observation you have about Iliad 1 NOW.

By William-Adolphe Bouguereau, Public Domain,
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Now, for just one minute, turn to someone or two people near you,
introduce yourself by name, and read your question to them. The
idea is not to answer the question, but to voice it, to share it.
Asking questions is itself a huge skill, and a way of learning,
even if you don't get an answer (although an answer increases
learning).

Achilles tending the wounded Patroclus
(Attic red-figure kylix, c.
500 BC)
By Sosias (potter, signed). Painting attributed to the Sosias
Painter (name piece for Beazley, overriding attribution) or the
Kleophrades Painter (Robertson) or Euthymides (Ohly-Dumm) -
User:Bibi Saint-Pol, own work, 2008, Public Domain,
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Some notes about Iliad 1
As the class goes on, I will stop doing this sort of commentary, but
for now, I want to concentrate on the text. Soon, we'll learn more
about orality, what archaeology can offer us, Homeric ethics, etc.
Several people asked in their daily comment last time about how to
read and study in this class. Here's a suggestion. In your life, you
may read some of these texts only in this class, and if you are too
rushed for time, you will only read them once (not a good idea) even
in this class. Here's what I would tell you: find a couple
things you are interested in, and make notes in the text
(underlining, high-lighting, marginal comments) and keep lists
of passages that touch on those issues. Maybe you want to
keep a running summary of the plot and your thoughts about that! A
great idea and so much better than Sparknotes, etc. because you
made it, which means you were actively learning. That is what
knowing and understanding often is: you yourself finding a thread,
following it, identifying where it appears, thinking about it, and
coming up with ideas about it, then repeating all that to make sure
your idea stands up. You can do this and should start keeping a few lists or running commentaries
NOW. This is a skill, a technique, that can
help you in all sorts of ways in all sorts of places (in any job, in
doing your taxes, in hobbies, etc.). It's kind of an
alternative/parallel to keeping a diary.
- Line 1
- Sing! the whole of Iliad and Odyssey
is a song! to be performed! to the Kithara!
(a stringed instrument)
- goddess: the goddess is the muse,
the source of poetic inspiration, and hence, the singer, thru
the bard!
- Peleus'
son: ancestry determines nobility: if you don't have noble
ancestry, YOU ARE NOT NOBLE
- it is also sufficient for nobility: you can be a dirty
rotten scoundrel, but if you have noble ancestry, YOU ARE
THEREFORE NOBLE
- Achilles: the best fighter in the war, the greatest Achaian
warrior
- Lines 1-15 of Lombardo's translation uses 'Agamemnon'
and 'Apollo' twice each, but the Greek uses neither name:
Agamemnon is 'Atreus' son' and Apollo is 'Son of Zeus and Leto':
sometimes they have other epithets.
- epithets are monikers, ways to refer to
people. Sometimes they accompany the name, as in "swift-footed
Achilles" or "rosy-fingered Dawn" (the rising sun): they are
tremendously frequent in the epics, much more so than Lombardo
indicates, and tremendously repetitive.
- They are a key feature of oral poetry and one of the ways
the Milman Parry and Lord and others confirmed that these
epics are in fact oral poems, not written poems.
- Line 2
- Achaians: one of three names for "the Greeks": "Greeks" is
NOT one of those three: "Greeks" is a later name: the three
names are "Achaians" (frequently spelled Achaeans:
Achaea is a land in the northern Peloponnese), "Argives"
(from Argos, a city on the Peloponnese), and "Danaans."
- Note, however, that Lombardo often uses "Greece" and
"Greeks" in his translation!
- Another word for Greeks, "Hellenes," which is the
adjective form of what has become the modern name of Greece,
Hellas, is used ONCE in Iliad.!
- The Hittite name Ahhiyawa, which in Hittite refers
to a land to the west of the Hittite empire, may refer to
historical Mycenaeans: we have this name on a few clay
tablets in cuneiform script.
- Line 3
- Hades: the underworld god as well as his realm: Hades is
Zeus' brother. Zeus' other brother is Poseidon, god of the
sea.
- Line 7
- Atreus' son the lord of men: this refers to Agamemnon: note
that his lineage is enough to identify him: also note that
"lord of men" is an epithet
- many people are identified merely by their parentage in
Homer
- LIne 9-... Why Achilles is mad
- Line 9-11
- Apollo, a significant Olympian god (there were 12
Olympians), whose human priest is Chryses.
- 16
- Atreus' two sons: we have met Agamemnon, but Atreus' other
son is Menelaus, Agamemnon's brother, a fellow king,
and
Helen's husband, the one whose wife went to Troy with
Paris/Alexander and thus set off the chain of
events that led to war
- 15 and 21
- Apollo has an epithet "who strikes from afar": he is
often depicted with a bow.
- 20
- kidnapping and ransom seems to have been a normal thing, not
unusual, a fine way to go out and make a living (if you are a
noble male, or among the men of a noble male, of course):
probably reflects historical reality in Archaic and earlier
Greece: think of "going viking."
- when you go out raiding or on campaign, there is always a
concern about whether you will return home, and
whether you will return with plunder (glory and honor)
or not
- the Odyssey is all about one man's return home.
Greek for return is nostos and hence we have the
English word 'nostalgia' (pain/desire to return)
- 22
- "All the rest of the Achaians": like a Hollywood movie,
there are only a few speaking roles in Iliad, but many
crowd scenes
- pay attention to the crowd, i.e. the whole army: the
fighting is actually as much about large army movements as
individual combat, but it doesn't appear that way most of the
time
- note that the crowd, the army, large groups, are only
present in short lines: the epic spends no time on them, but
they are there.
- 30's
- the god's staff and ribbons: as Caleb mentioned, these are
symbols of the god, and humans are supposed to respect them
- note that this sort of tradition is what functions as the
"law" of the Iliad: there is NO written law: only
traditions, strong ones.
- there are traditions about how to treat a messenger, a
traveling stranger, a host, etc. Paris violated such a
tradition by taking Helen with him (note that in the epic,
her role is often elided: did she run or was she taken?).
- 30's
- Chryseis: what is she (or any woman in general) good for?
- from what Agamemnon says here, working a loom and being in
bed with a man
- don't underestimate the loom: it took hundreds of hours of
work to make each article of clothing: we take for granted
the processing, the spinning, the weaving, and the sewing,
because we have machines. This was incredibly important and
sophisticated work. Computers in fact have their origin in
weaving: it's that complex and technical.
- as for sex, relationships that involve it, sexuality,
gender issues, etc., pay attention to them: they are not
discussed much, rarely explicitly, but they are incredibly
important and interesting, and the occasional line adds to
the picture: if you are interested, start keeping a list
now, as you read, of passages the mention such
things.
- 39 ff
- Chryses calls down the wrath of Apollo, whose arrows are a
plague, a sickness, in the Achaian camp. Note the prayer
formula: "If every I did something for you, god, now do
something for me": it is called "do ut des"
(Latin for "I give so you give") and is a very strong and
widespread religious idea: prayer and religion as bargaining
with a higher power: it is also an extremely simplistic
religious formula rejected and ridiculous from more
sophisticated religious points of view. But it works,
apparently, in this epic world. Most all of the rituals and
sacrifices and prayers in the epic word are do
ut des
- note that there was, as far as we can tell, no good medical
knowledge whatsoever: contagion, cleanliness, medicine, all
were utterly misunderstood. Nonetheless there were 'doctors'
(Machaon is the doctor on the Greek side, but he
is not mentioned until much later in the Iliad).
- 53
- nine days: note the occasional quick mention of time
passing: if you add up all the time that is reported as part
of the actual action of Iliad (not flashbacks or
recountings of the past, or flash forwards or references to
what will happen), it is about 50 days! If you are interested,
keep a list as you read.
- 55
- Hera inspires Achilles to call an assembly: note
that Achilles' thought is caused by Hera! Gods not
only interact with humans as actors: they also interfere
with/inspire humans thoughts! or maybe such things are just
attributed to the gods?
- Hera has pity on the Achaians: does that mean she is on
their side? Here she is helping them, certainly. Watch for
things like this: this is the evidence for whose side a god is
on and why. Evidence is important! keep a list of
who's on which side?
- So far, Hera helps the Achaians and Apollo helps Chryses
against the Achaians.
- Note that Athena will soon descend and hold back Achilles,
physically and in person, appearing to him alone: gods work in
various ways. What are they? Personified motivations? Aspects
of one's personality (Athena is wisdom, Aphrodite is lust,
etc.?)
- 64
- Achilles knows that Apollo is causing the plague: how does
he know?
- because Apollo's sphere of power includes such things as
plagues, and so it must he Apollo: but that is not said.
It's background cultural knowledge that the audience would
have. You'll slowly build your own such knowledge: it is a
small part of why re-reading is so rewarding.
- what we know is that Achilles says the plague is caused by
Apollo: can we ask why Achilles might use Apollo as a
rhetorical pawn in his own agenda? Why shouldn't we? It
depends on how you think Homer should be interpreted.
- Maybe what we learn in lines 75-85 explains it: maybe
Achilles talked to Kalchas and they have this all planned
out beforehand as a move relative to Agamemnon. How would we
support that? BEcause Achilles mentions it here before
Kalchas says it!
- 75-85
- Kalchas, a seer and priest of Apollo who watches
birds in flight and thus predicts the future, asks Achilles to
protect him, because what he will reveal (that Agamemnon's
actions are why Apollo has rained this plague down upon the
Achaians) will anger Agamemnon
- was this all planned out beforehand as some sort of
manipulative rhetoric to get the Achaians to go home?
- or to damage Agamemnon's reputation and status?
- or is Achilles wanting to usurp Agamemnon's role as
leader?
- are we even right to think of such things? the poet, after
all, gives us little direct explicit evidence that that is
the case!
- I think it is a good idea to pursue such interpretations,
with certain warnings and with our eyes wide open as to what
one is doing.
- but not as if they are the best or the only way to read
the text
- I am honestly not suggesting that such an interpretation
is right or wrong, but merely trying to point out that if
you engage in such an interpretation, the nature of your
evidence becomes indirect. If your interpretation is
coherent and interesting, I think it is a viable one, even
if it contradicts other viable interpretations. Literature
is not necessarily unambiguous or free from contradiction,
and often more than one interpretation is possible and that
can help make the literature stand the test of time, because
that can make it interesting and about important issues. It
can also make it relevant in very different ways in
different times.
- We can pooh-pooh divination, and I do, but in antiquity,
it was held to be a science and to have roots in divine
placement of clues and signs. Thus it can tell us what an
intellectual skill, a science, looked like to them at the
time.
- He says Agamemnon has to give the woman Chryseis back.
Note that 9 years ago, he told Agamemnon he had to sacrifice
Iphigenia, Agamemnon's daughter, to get to Troy, and
Iphigenia was sacrificed! That's part of why Ag. is so
bitter at him. BUT THAT IS BARELY ALLUDED TO HERE; the
audience would have been keenly and easily aware of it in
ancient Greece.
- 105-120
- Agamemnon's speech
- he rails against Kalchas, because Kalchas has never once
said anything that Agamemnon liked! Does this mean Kalchas
is machinating against Agamemnon? or does it simply mean
that in fact Agamemnon is annoyed with Kalchas, but Kalchas
is merely reporting the fact that Agamemnon's actions are
the root of the problem and giving back Chryses, this time
without a ransom, will solve the problem? Different
interpretations.
- Agamemnon, interestingly, likes Chryseis, his plunder,
more than his own wife!!! If you know later events, you know
that Agamemnon will bring home another woman war captive,
Cassandra, and that Agamemnon's wife Clytaemnestra, will
kill Agamemnon partly because he prefers others to her.
Soap-oper-epic! But also, tells you about norms of the time.
Are they so different from more recent times?
- The epics, and myth in general, and literature in
general, is full of such "echoes" and "parallels": keep
a list of them?
- Why does Agamemnon suggest that he needs another prize?
does he know that they are machinating against him and so
make a counter-move directly against Achilles and his
co-machinators? or is he simply pointing out that the
heroic code requires that he have honor, that Chryseis
IS honor, and so if he loses her, he should get another
honor?
- Note, if you have not already, that Chryseis' point of
view is not related. She is spoil of war. Spoils are part
of the heroic code. Once in a while Homer seems to
question it. The playwright Euripides will certainly
question it when we get to his works.
- Note, for instance that at line 360 about Achilles'
spoil of war, Bryseis, that when they came to take her
"she went unwillingly": that's all that is said, but why
say it? What does it mean? What does it tell you?
- 125
- distribution of spoils: a very important part of
the heroic code: you raid and take spoils, then divide
them. The spoils ARE your honor, just as your money IS your
worth according to many today.
- 130-140
- Achilles' speech
- Achilles suggests a perhaps reasonable alternative:
there are no honors lying around for Agamemnon, so he
should get a promissory note: 3-4 times the value of
Chryseis next time there is a distribution
- seems reasonable, and might undermine the interpretation
that holds that there are undercurrents here of
machinations and power-maneuvers. Maybe those who
interpret it that way are simply too blinded by their own
world and their own world view to understand the epic one?
Maybe promises like that are worth nowhere near as much to
him as a woman in his tent. Hmmm.
- Note the line "Every town in the area has been sacked":
how do you think you supply your army when you are
attacking a town far across the sea for 9 year? This has
been one non-stop plunderation of everywhere that was not
an ally.
- 130-150's
- Agamemnon's speech
- He comes across as a selfish and bad leader, no? Is he?
- The scene seems to me like a pack of wolves who have a
carcass: a bird comes along and flies off with
one's choice morsel from the carcass, so he goes over to
another wolf and tries to take its morsel.
- And Agamemnon is like a child who does not understand
delayed gratification.
- Is that fair? Is it an inaccurate representation of how
things like international relations work, for instance?
- Agamemnon is just weilding supreme power over his army and
not brooking protest. It's military, after all. It's not
diplomacy or subtle court politics.
- But Agamemnon agrees to give back Chryseis.
- 155-ish
- Achilles' speech
- WOW!!!!
- Truth to power? or maybe 'aspirant to greater power to
power' or maybe "really skilled underling to the person with
power"
- Achilles' analysis of the situation is intense! and seems
sensible.
- and he is going to abandon the allied host.
- Note the mini-list of other leaders: lists are
frequent. How would that help an oral poet?
- 183-ish
- Agamemnon's reply
- "Go ahead and desert...If you're all that strong, it's
just a gift from some god...I couldn't care less about
you...yu will see just how much Stronger I am than you, and
the next person will wince At the thought of opposing me as
an equal"
- Agamemnon's power relies on being maintained, on
appearances
- He insults physical strength and talks instead of power.
- 190's to 210's
- Athena, sent by Hera, persuades Achilles not to (try to)
kill Agamemnon.
- Only he can see her!
- Achilles' reason for listening to and obeying Athena?
"Obey the gods and they hear you when you pray."! that and
the promise of 4-fold spoils (i.e. Achilles knows about
delayed gratification)
- This is great evidence for any argument about what the
gods are: if you are interested in such things, keep a
list of such passages with notes.
- 235-ish ff.
- Achilles' speech back to Thetis
- the scepter: symbol of power: pay attention to the things,
like forks and scepters and cups: then when it
comes to archaeology, look for them!
- note that Achilles says that Agamemnon never actually
enters battle himself! remember I said pay attention
to the crowd: even though the Iliad often seems like
mostly one-on-one combat, that is just like in Braveheart,
when Mel Gibson seems like the only warrior they\ camera
pays attention to, but really the battle is a confrontation
of two masses of men.
- It seems like a narrative ploy as much as a reflection
of any possible 'reality' of how fighting occurred.
- note too how Achilles insults the Achaian rank and file as
"not real men"
- 260's
- Nestor
- the prototypical wise old man: from a previous generation,
wise of counsel.
- Note that he fought alongside Theseus, and so he is of
Heracles' generation (Heracles too sacked Troy, and that
is mentioned in Iliad at 7.451, 20.145 and
21.442!)
- He seems to be an ineffectual foil for Agamemnon and
Achilles' hotheadedness, a wise man who is not heeded.
- he holds up the right of a scepter holding king over all
others.
- 320's
- first appearances of Patroclus and Odysseus
- Patroclus is Achilles' best friend, many a person
ships them or says he actually is Achilles' lover (but Homer
never actually says that: Aeschylus will put them together
as lovers, but that tragedy has not survived down to our
time)
- Odysseus is known as wily and tricky, good at
speaking: he is king of Ithaca, an island on the other side
of Greece toward Italy.
- 330's Agamemnon sends his minions Talthybius and
Eurybates to take Briseis from Achilles
- Achilles is gracious to them: there is traditon that
heralds are respected and protected
- Briseis "goes unwillingly": probably meant to glorify
Achilles, but still, interesting that she is given some
personhood and agency, minimal as it is.
- 360's
- Achilles calls on his mother Thetis, a sea
goddess, who laments that her son Achilles will have such a
short life, that of a fighter.
- this theme of a short life of glory versus what?
the boring life of a peaceful noble: that is "Achilles'
choice" and it has a lot to do with the heroic code
- She agrees to intercede with Zeus for Achilles, but says
that Zeus and the other gods have gone to Ethiopia for
feastings and won't be back for 12 days.
- note what that does for the narrative: Zeus is out of
cell range, and so he is there, in our minds, perhaps
going to do something important, but on hold. A kind of
CPD.
- 378ff
- Repeats the whole story in a shortened version: what does
that do for the oral poet? the aural audience?
- note that Cilician Thebes
is where Chryseis was captured by Achilles. There are
several places called Thebes: this one is not well known.
It's among the dozens of place names mentioned in the Iliad.
You can't learn them all. Know the most important, the ones
frequently mentioned.
- 454
- Achilles laments for the loss of Briseis: what does that
mean? is he lamenting his loss of honor, or does he have
feelings for her?
- the two are not incompatible: he could do both. But the
Greek, and the English, doesn't make it clear, but maybe
Lombardo tilts toward his honor by saying "forced to give
up": is he lamenting that it was forced or that he lost her?
- It might be important for an interpretation of women's
roles and treatment.
- 455ff
- Odysseus puts in at Chryse and there is a type
scene: a feast.
- There are many and varied type scenes in
these epics: scenes that occur in various guises repeatedly.
They are like old friends after a while.
- remember, no refrigeration: you sacrifice (slaughter) and
you have to eat it soon or preserve it somehow.
- the division of the sacrifice is parallel to the division
of spoils from battle: it is done according to some
principle of fairness that takes social position heavily
into account.
- 521
- 521
- Thetis goes to Zeus to ask him to do Achilles a favor.
- note that she invokes the formula "if ever before I have
done something for you, do this now for me": do ut
des a prayer formula we've seen before: a
reciprocal exchange idea of relations with gods: also
applies to human relations.
- we learn that perhaps the "will of Zeus" at the
beginning of the book was NOT just fate: it was what Zeus decided
himself based on doing a favor for Achilles (the favor is to
let the Achaians lose for a while until they have to beg
Achilles to come back and thus do him honor)
- we also learn that at least according to Hera, Zeus has
favored the Trojans in the past: he seems here like a much
more powerful god among powerful gods, not a wise and just
all powerful ruler here.
- 565 ff
- meeting of gods: another type scene (the
messenger scene with Talthybius and Eurybates going to
Achilles was another type scene: any scene that
follows a fairly predictable pattern after a few repetitions
is a type scene.
- note first that Hera accuses Zeus of secret counsels and
plots: that perhaps gives us permission ourselves in our
own interpretation to think that maybe some of what is
happening has hidden motives that we are justified in
speculating about (e.g. that Achilles and Kalchas has
planned out the earlier confrontation with Agamemnon, even
if it might not have gone as planned).
- Hephaestus provides a little comic relief, but also makes
Olympus seem like an abusive, dysfunctional human
household/village.