CLAS 196/PHIL 196
Stoicism
Prof. Bailly
Brennan Chapter 16
- THE 'LAZY' ARGUMENT
- If it is fated that you will recover from a disease, then
you will recover whether you call a doctor or not.
- If it is fated that you will not recover from a disease,
then you will not recover whether you call a doctor or not.
- One or the other is fated.
- Therefore, calling a doctor does not change the outcome from
what it was fated to be.
- Called the 'lazy' argument, because its conclusion is that
effort is superfluous. That is, it does not change outcomes.
- The argument can be applied to just about any future event.
- Thus it is fully general and can apply to all of our actions.
- What is the point of this argument?
- It was used against Stoics, because Stoics believe in
determism about everything that has happened, is happening, and
will happen, by an inexorable causal nexus.
- The idea is that if determinism is true, then one should
never bother to do anything that has a cost to it, whether
that cost be effort, disgust, etc.
- One should not willingly choose to do something for the sake
of some result, because the result will happen if it's going
to happen regardless of what you do .
- But it is a problem that applies whether one is a stoic or
not.
- Question: is it sufficient to meet the lazy argument with
that? the claim that it applied whether one is a stoic or not?
- Seems like that's not enough: what about the following:
- Whether you survive or die from this disease is fated: that
means simply that your survival or death will be part of the
inexorable network of causal things in the world.
- Let's call that inexorable network of causes in the world
the "Causal Nexus."
- You are part of that causal nexus.
- Whatever part you play in that causal nexus is fated by your
own character plus the causes that influence you.
- No matter what happens, it is part of the causal nexus.
- Thus there is no more reason to make than not to make an
effort. The "lazy argument" is no argument for laziness
specifically.
- You may prefer to be lazy, but if so, that itself is caused.
Imagining that your decision whether to be lazy or not
"makes a difference" and so can "change" the causal nexus is
ridiculous. Your decision is just part of the causal
nexus, and always has been fated to be so.
- Moreover, the fact that things are
determined does not itself cause things to be determined.
Rather, the things themselves are causes, and the fact of
their being determined is just an aspect, a description, a
naming of the things that you can know.
- As such, that fact is itself a thing: the Stoics would say
that it is an incorporeal proposition that supervenes on a
body (a neuron? a mind?) and can be assented to.
- Thus saying that the fact of determinism justifies
laziness is not saying that determinism itself justifies
laziness.
- Another way to put that last point is that "fate" or the
"causal nexus" is just a name for the network of ordinary
causes that lead to what happens. It is not something separate
from or in addition to those ordinary causes. Thus saying that
"it was fated" is the same as saying "it came about because of
ordinary causal mechanisms."
- So be lazy or don't be lazy, but don't use the causal
nexus as an excuse or justification.
STOP HERE
- Bailly digression to see if we can wriggle out of
determinism and deal with the lazy argument.
- The Stoics either need to show that the lazy argument does not
sap motivation and determinism is true, or come up with an
alternative to determinism (but they don't really want to do
that: we, however, might).
- What alternative is there to the idea that everything is fully
determined by causes?
- That there are some events that have no causes?
- Then they are just random?
- If not just random, then there is a pattern? Is there a
cause to the pattern? NO, there can't be, because then
there would be a cause.
- Now, if there are such uncaused random events, let's see
what happens to the 'lazy' argument:
- If it is fated that you will recover from a disease,
then you will recover whether you call a doctor or not.
- remember that "fated" just means "a product of a fully
determined causal nexus"
- If it is fated that you will not recover from a disease,
then you will not recover whether you call a doctor or
not.
- But an uncaused event may interfere with what would
otherwise be fate's causal nexus, and so in addition to
the causal nexus you may recover or not recover because of
an uncaused event.
- Such an uncaused event will happen whether you call the
doctor or not.
- Therefore, calling a doctor does not change the outcome
from what it was fated to be.
- Any other alternative to full determination by causes?
- Probability:
- Doing X leads to Y 75% of the time, but to Z 25% of the
time.
- This sounds promising: you might want to "place your
bets" by making that call to the doctor if you conclude
that calling the doctor is probabilistically the best bet.
- But it's a dead end, really:
- There either are causes for each instance, and those
causes lead to the 75-25 split, or there are not causes,
in which case, we're back to an uncaused event.
- We're back where we started.
- Any other alternatives?
- Maybe there is a pattern, but it is not accessible to us at
all: something is causing it all, but we simply cannot know
about that something.
- Some sort of divinity could fit the bill.
- Maybe there is a pattern, and we can know about it, but
there is no way we can manipulate it reliably.
- Some sort of chaotic system?
- THE UPSHOT? THE LAZY ARGUMENT IS A PROBLEM, BUT NOT JUST FOR
STOICS.
- Nonetheless the Stoics were particularly engaged with it
because it was part of opponents' attacks on Stoicism.
- Brennan draws a parallel to "Newcomb's
Problem," a situation modern philosophers discuss:
- You are faced with a choice:
- Choose the box only.
- Choose the box PLUS $1,000
- NOW THE TWIST: Science has now
reached the point at which the scientists can quite
accurately predict which option each person will choose. Before
they approach you, they do or do not put $1,000,000 in the
box. So it is now a fact of the matter whether there is or
is not money in that box.
- The only situation in which they have put $1,000,000 in
the box is if they predicted that you would choose #1
- So if you choose the box only, you almost certainly
get $1,000,000
- But if you choose the box plus $1,000, you almost
certainly get only $1,000.
- You must choose now.
You do not know what the scientists predicted about you.
- But you know that there either is or is no money in the
box, and you know that no matter what you decide, your
decision itself cannot possibly change the fact of the
matter (causes cannot affect the past).
- Brennan says that Newcomb's problem is similar to the lazy
argument: fate is the Scientists, being lazy is taking the
$1,000, and making an effort is passing up the $1,000.
- Which should you choose?
- You know by reliable evidence that in the past, their
predictions have just about always been true (no verifiable
instance of their being wrong has ever surfaced).
- How should you think about the choice?
- Remember that whatever you do now cannot possibly
influence what the Scientists predicted about you or whether
there is $1,000,000 in the box.
- What you decide now cannot possibly change the fact of the
matter about whether there is $1,000,000 in the box.
- You cannot change the past by your decision now.
- So there either is or is not $1,000,000 in the box.
- Which do you choose?
- WAIT A SECOND: if these scientists have really figured out
how to understand and follow the causal chain reliably, then
in a way what I do now actually does affect the past! Because
their PAST perception of the future caused them to put or not
put the money in the box IN THE PAST. So all I have to do is
to figure out which one I would choose, then choose the other
one? But maybe they foresaw that too? So I should choose the
one I would choose? But maybe they foresaw that too... it
becomes random and unpredictable?
- Brennan: "It is not up to you what Fate does. But no matter
what it does, you get a better pay-off by not trying than by
trying. So it is only rational not to try. If the theory of Fate
is true, then it is rational to be lazy. But we know that it is
crazy to be lazy; so the Stoics must be wrong about Fate." P.
274 I would add that the Stoics themselves try desperately to
get out of this cul-de-sac that they've driven into, but cannot.
- One point: this whole argument presupposes that being lazy is
preferable. That's not altogether implausible, but it's not
altogether plausible either. Being really lazy (doing nothing at
all that is goal-oriented) is boring, unrewarding, and
impossible for a fully functioning human being to do for long.
After a while, being lazy takes effort: it becomes work, and
it's not worth it. I'd rather do something, even if I know it
might not work.
- But no one aside from me seems to think that way, right?
- Stoics' reaction
- This argument is
rejected by Chrysippus. For certain things, as he says,
are 'simple,' whereas others are 'connected.' A simple
one is, e.g., 'Socrates will die on that day'; whether
he does something or not, his day of death is
determined. But if something is fated in the way that it
is fated that Oedipus will be born to Laius, then one
cannot also say 'whether or not Laius has intercourse
with a woman.' For this matter is connected, and
'co-fated'--Chrysippus calls it this, because what is
fated is both that Laius will sleep with his wife, and
that he will beget Oedipus with her. It's as though
someone said ' Milo will wrestle in the Olympics'; if
someone responded ' so he'll wrestle whether or not he
has an opponent,' then he'd be wrong. Milo's wrestling
is 'connected,' since there is no wrestling without an
opponent. So this whole class of fallacious arguments
can be rejected in the same way. 'You'll recover whether
or not you call in a doctor' is fallacious, for whether
or not you call in a doctor is just as much fated as
whether or not you recover. As I said before, these two
are what Chryippus calls 'co-fated.'
- Eusebius Praeparatio
Evangelica 6.8, 286d
- If it were said
Hegesarchus the boxer will come out of the ring without
taking a single punch, then it would be absurd for
someone to suppose that Hegesarchus would fight with his
guard lowered, on the grounds that he is fated to come
off without taking a punch. For the original statement
was made on account of how good he is at guarding
himself against punches.
- Brennan replies:
- We are almost never faced with a choice between doing or not
doing X in which we know absolutely certainly that doing X is
necessary for some later result.
- And for Chrysippus' solution to the lazy argument to
work, he needs to be able to trace the causal chain back
from the desired result to an action RIGHT NOW that is
essential for the result. I.e. we need to KNOW that doing
X is necessary for a later result.
- But humans cannot do that: they don't have that kind of
certain knowledge.
- All sorts of things can happen differently that can lead
to the desired result (or avert it): any action RIGHT NOW
can plausibly be seen as not necessary for the desired
result (it could be done later, something else could be
done, situation could change radically, etc.)
- Bailly wonders: So Brennan has refuted Chrysippus'
solution, but his argument reveals that the lazy argument
is unrealistic and not so general after all?
- Bailly wonders additionally: the less certain we think
the link is between X and some desired result, the less
motive there is to do X, and the more motive there is to
be lazy. Not knowing about the adamantine chains of fate
could give us more reason, not less reason, to be lazy.
- Why not just act based on probabilities?
- in Newcomb's problem, choose the box only, based on the
record of the past
- That, however, is preposterous: how we act now cannot
possibly affect whether the money is in the box or not.
- But isn't it rational? You know that there either is
or is not money in the box, and you know that if you
choose the box only, the scientists would have predicted
that and put $1,000,000 in the box. Who cares how it
happens: $1,000,000 is $1,000,000 dollars. Take it and
figure it out later.
- What I do NOW is not plausibly connected to the result
in the right way. At least, I cannot possibly KNOW that
it is.
- Back in the real world: place your bets in a way that is
most likely to win. Sure, some people die because they
went to a doctor, but more are cured.
- If you're of a mind to think about it and you conclude
that determinism is true, the lazy argument affects not
just actions that might or might not lead to some result,
but it affects every single action. There is no reason to
do anything at all, is there? But you have to do
something. Even being lazy is doing something. In the end,
the argument could be used to push for effort or laziness,
and so it seems irrelevant.
- The stuff about co-fated events will not solve the problem,
says Brennan.
- It's like replying to someone trying to break a chain who
is having problems with one link that there are other links
linked to that link.
- But all the links in the causal chain are bound by the
same sort of link, equally strongly.
- We're in the chain and it will happen to us regardless of
what we do now.
- Co-fated events solve nothing: they are equally
inexorable.
- What is needed is something that can be done to avert or
bring on a result: all those co-fated events simply form
part of the causal nexus, and there's a lazy argument that
can be applied to every link in the chain.
- Think of being trapped in a rocket headed toward the
sun: nothing you do will change that result.
- It does not help to be told that it was co-fated that
you would first pass by Venus' orbit path, then Mercury's
orbit path. Those are co-fated events. They don't help.
- But Brennan seems now himself to be ignoring the fact that
in real-life situations, we do not know what is fated: we
cannot know that it is fated that I will die from this
disease no matter what I do. We cannot know that we are in a
rocket which cannot help but hit the sun.
- We don't know what the causal chain has in store for us,
but we do know things like "If I want to have children that
are mine biologically, I have somehow to get my egg
fertilized or get my sperm to fertilize an egg."
- Just so, if we have any sort of desire at all in life, we
can figure out some things that either have to happen or are
most likely to be necessary in order to fulfill that desire.
That's the point of things being "co-fated." It's to defeat
the idea that if you are fated to win the lottery, it will
happen whether or not you ever have a lottery ticket.
- The upshot of Brennan's chapter is that the Lazy argument is
unrefuted by the Stoics. But I want to emphasize that it's not
just a problem for Stoics. It's a problem for any causal
determinist and it's hard to see a way out of it. If you don't
like laziness, then the argument makes determinism itself more
distasteful (but distasteful things may be scientifically
correct). Determinism too is hard to see a way out of.