CLAS 196/PHIL 196
as always, following Brennan, we are on Chapter 12 of The Stoic Life
- HOW SHOULD HUMANS DECIDE WHAT TO DO?
- Setting our Defaults as Stoics
- I keep saying that the Stoic Sage will do mostly things that
we too think of as virtuous. Here is a text to support that
claim.
- Diogenes Laertius LXI
- Again, they say that a
thing has value, when in some point of view, it has a sort
of intermediate power of aiding us to live conformably to
nature; and under this class, we may range riches or good
health, if they give any assistance to natural life. Again,
value is predicated of the price which one gives for the
attainment of an object, which some one, who has experience
of the object sought, fixes as its fair price; as if we were
to say, for instance, that as some wheat was to be exchanged
for barley, with a mule thrown in to make up the difference.
Those goods then are preferred, which have a value, as in
the case of the mental goods, ability, skill, improvement,
and the like; and in the case of the corporeal goods, life,
health, strength, a good constitution, soundness, beauty;
and in the case of external goods, riches, glory, nobility
of birth, and the like.
- Rejected things are, in
the case of qualities of the mind, stupidity, unskilfulness,
and the like; in the case of circumstances affecting the
body, death, disease, weakness, a bad constitution,
mutilation, disgrace, and the like; in the case of external
circumstances, poverty, want of reputation, ignoble birth,
and the like. But those qualities and circumstances which
are indifferent, are neither preferred nor rejected. Again,
of things preferred, some are preferred for their own sakes,
some for the sake of other things, and some partly for their
own sakes and partly for that of other things. Those which
are preferred for their own sakes, are ability, improvement,
and the like; those which are preferred for the sake of
other things, are wealth, nobility of birth, and the like;
those which are preferred partly for their own sake, and
partly for that of something else, are strength, vigour of
the senses, universal soundness, and the like; or they are
preferred, for their own sakes, inasmuch as they are in
accordance with nature; and for the sake of something else,
inasmuch as they are productive of no small number of
advantages; and the same is the case in the inverse ratio,
with those things which are rejected.
- These notes and the set of notes following it involve
consideration of two ways to interpret Stoicism's attitude to us
and our everyday decisions, names the "Salva Virtute
Model" and the "Indifferent-Only" model. Keep in mind that
Stoics clearly think it is worthwhile for non-sages to follow
stoicism and they clearly think that it has something to offer
them. They try to persuade others to follow stoicism. They
think it helps one live a better life. If at any point you
find yourself saying that Stoicism does not do that, then you
have probably misinterpreted it or carried a Stoic line of
thought too far. See if there is another interpretation that
allows you to preserve the idea that Stoicism
plausibly helps ordinary people.
- THE SALVA VIRTUTE MODEL
- Cicero de Officiis
3.13 provides evidence for this model
- The final end specified
by the Stoics, 'to live in agreement with nature', has the
following meaning, in my opinion: always to conform to
virtue, and as for the other things which are according to
nature, to select them if they do not conflict with
virtue.
- Brennan calls this "if they do not conflict with virtue"
model of the final end the "SALVA VIRTUTE" model
- Salva virtute means "provided that virtue is preserved"
- In this model, part of our deliberations about what to do
involves doing the things that are virtuous, and then, in
considering the various additional options, asking whether
virtue is preserved.
- SO, as Brennan sees it, we have two ways to decide things:
- Some choices involve the virtuous and the
contrary-to-virtuous: virtue is the trump card
- Some choices involve indifferents only
- THE INDIFFERENTS ONLY MODEL
- Cicero de Finibus
3.59-61 provides an illustration and support for this model
(note that the same author provides evidence for the other
model above!)
- Now it cannot be doubted that
some of the intermediates should be adopted, and others
rejected. So whatever one does or says in this fashion
is included under appropriate action. This shows, since
everyone by nature loves themselves, that the foolish no
less than the wise will adopt what is in accordance with
nature and reject what is contrary. This is how a
certain kind of appropriate action is common to both
wise and foolish, and it is here that its involvement in
what we call intermediates arises. From the latter [i.e. from intermediates] all appropriate actions proceed; and so it is
with good reason that all our
deliberations are said to be directed at them,
including the question of our departing from life or
remaining alive. ‘It is the appropriate action to live
when most of what one has is in accordance with nature.
When the opposite is the case, or is envisaged to be so,
then the appropriate action is to depart from life. This
shows that it is sometimes the appropriate action for the
wise person to depart from life though happy, and the fool
to remain in it though miserable. Stoic good and evil, which I
have now often mentioned, is a subsequent development.
But the primary objects of nature, whether they are in
accordance with it or against, fall under the judgement
of the wise person, and are as it were the subject and
material of wisdom. ‘Thus the whole rationale for either remaining in
or departing from life is to be measured by reference to
those intermediates that I mentioned above.
- On this model, our decisions about courses of action do not
involve choices between virtuous, vicious, and
intermediate/indifferent actions
- How to read the evidence?
- Cicero de Finibus
3.58-9 reads in part (we saw more of this text in the previous
notes):
- we see that something
exists which we call a right action; but this is a
perfectly proper function; so there will also be
such a thing as an imperfect one. For instance, it
is a right action to return a deposit in the just manner,
to return a deposit should be counted as a proper
function. It becomes a right action by the addition,
'in the just manner,' but the act of return just by itself
is counted a proper function.
- This text says:
- Right actions exist (this refers to what we have called
"perfect befitting actions," which only the sage does)
- They are perfectly proper functions, AKA perfect
befitting functions (proper functions are just another way
to translate the words we have been translating as
"befitting")
- There are also imperfect proper functions (this refers
to actions which are "merely" befitting, but not perfect
befitting actions)
- Returning a deposit justly is a right action (i.e. a
perfect befitting action)
- Returning a deposit by itself is just a befitting action
- "Justly" is what makes it perfect
- Indifferents-only interpretation
- The agent faces choices between indifferents: return
the deposit or not
- The agent chooses one, and that choice is always
what she thinks is befitting
- Salva virtute interpretation
- The agent faces mixed choices: return deposit and do
a just act OR return the deposit and do an unjust act
OR don't return the deposit and do a just act OR don't
return the deposit and do an unjust act
- when we say "just" or "unjust" here, what must be
meant is something like "What a Sage would do in
that situation" rather than "fully just, i.e. fully
virtuous"
- We need some sort of guidance as to what constitutes
"according to virtue" and what is "contrary to virtue"
- Stoics are remarkably clear on the idea that the Sage
performs ONLY virtuous actions
- every action of the Sage, including things like picking up
a twig, tooth-brushing, etc. are virtuous when a Sage does
them.
- The Stoics are also remarkably clear on the idea that every
virtuous action is equally virtuous
- and every vicious action is equally vicious.
- The Stoics are also remarkably clear on the idea that the
Sage will be equally happy with or without anything that is an
indifferent.
- we can't be Sages.
- we can't observe Sages (there aren't any)
- we can't ask them questions
- What should we do?
- Non-Sages should perform the befitting actions that a Sage
would perform in the same circumstances: that is clear
- That might be what Cicero means when he talks of
conforming to virtue and avoiding conflict with virtue
- always to conform to
virtue, and as for the other things which are according
to nature, to select them if they do not conflict with
virtue.
- But the question still stands: where do we get
guidance?
- Sage versus Non-Sage: on the Salva Virtute model, how
do we find a guide for our lives?
- We can look at what the Sage would do!
- We can imitate the Sage.
- But that does not make us Virtuous, because we need the
Sage's mind, the Sage's virtue, to be virtuous
- and that is inaccessible to us!
- Duties: Set our defaults properly.
- Diogenes Laertius 7.108-9 (62 in our online numbering)
- Now of the things done
according to inclination, some are duties, and some are
contrary to duty; and some are neither duties nor contrary
to duty,
- These are duties,
which reason selects to do, as for instance, to honour
one‘s parents, one‘s brothers, one‘s country, to gratify
one‘s friends. These actions are contrary to duty,
which reason does not choose; as for instance, to neglect
one’s parents, to be indifferent to one‘s brothers, to
shirk assisting one‘s friends, to be careless about the
welfare of one‘s country, and so on. Those are neither
duties, nor contrary to duty, which reason neither
selects to do, nor, on the other hand, repudiates, such
actions, for instance, as to pick up straw, to hold a pen,
or a comb, or things of that sort.
- Again, there are
some duties which do not depend on circumstances, and
some which do. These do not depend on circumstances, to
take care of one's health, and of the sound state of
one's senses, and the like. Those which do depend on
circumstances, are the mutilation of one's members, the
sacrificing of one's property, and so on. And the
case of these actions which are contrary to duty, is
similar.
- Again, of duties, some are always
such, and some are not always. What is always a
duty, is to live in accordance with virtue; but to ask
questions, to give answers, to walk, and the like, are not
always duties. And the same statement holds good with
respect to acts contrary to duty.
- Things to note:
- Think of "duties" as a default option: do it unless there is a
clearly better option
- The idea is: "honoring one's parents" is listed as
befitting 'without regard to circumstances,' but that
does not mean every instance of honoring one's parents
is befitting. It means it's the default (a concept
that has no clear expression I can find in Greek or
Latin).
- Cicero de Legibus 1.6.18
- The law is the
highest reason, implanted in nature, ordering which things
are to be done and forbidding their contraries. This same
reason, when it is in a confirmed and perfected human mind
[i.e. the Sage], is
law.
- We have minds, we have instances of improving them: we can
imagine a mind that is better and more advanced than each of
ours and follow the path from our mind to that mind.
- That gives us some guidance, no?
- What does he mean by "law"?
- Compare Diogenes Laertius (LIII in our numbering)
- And again, to live
according to virtue is the same thing as living according
to one’s experience of those things which happen by
nature; as Chrysippus explains it in the first book of his
treatise on the Chief Good. For our individual natures
are all parts of universal nature; on which account the
chief good is to live in a manner corresponding to
nature, and that means corresponding to one's own nature
and to universal nature; doing none of those things
which the common
law of mankind is in the habit of
forbidding, and"" that common law is identical with that right
reason which pervades everything, being
the same with Jupiter, who is the regulator and chief
manager of all existing things.
- Still puzzling and insufficient, but it does contain
some clear statements that move us around if not directly
to any "solution"
- Law as possible guide to life
- Diogenes mentions
- "the common law of humankind"
- right reason
- which pervades everything
- So this law, is it just whatever the Sage does, or
whatever Zeus does? Is it law as in a society which has no
written laws but rather has wise elders, and whatever they
say is law? Surely it's not whatever law happens to be on
the books in any given human community.
- Epictetus Discourses
2.6:
- Chrysippus therefore
said well, “So long as future things are uncertain, I
always cling to those which are more adapted to the
conservation of that which is according to nature; for
God himself has given me the faculty of such choice.”
But if I knew that it was fated for me to be sick, I
would even move toward it; for the foot also, if it
had intelligence, (and understood that it was going
into the mud no matter what) would move to go into the
mud.
- From this, it seems that whatever happens in nature is
nature's law.
- So this law must be as variable as nature: seems to have
patterns, but in individual particular situations to be
almost shapeless?
- Plato, in the Statesman
argued that the following two beliefs are incompatible:
- The law is a system of general principles
- The law is always correct
- Aristotle too has the same thought: he thinks there is
an irreducible element of human judgement between the law
and any particular circumstance. No law can specify every
circumstance, in other words.
- Even if "the law" consists of things which are somewhat
like "default" options (stay healthy, help friends, etc.),
still we need an ethical expert, someone we trust and
respect, to decide the outlying cases.
- But Stoics apparently think that "law" is not a system of
rules, but rather whatever comes out of the mind of the Sage
or Zeus.
- I.e. it's Salva Virtute, which is fine, but leaves us with
no reliable way to know what to do! There are no such
experts around to ask, and it's not a matter of principles
and rules (which we might be able to muddle thru), but of
whatever "Zeus" sends our way.
- Let's give the Indifferents-Only model a try
- Whereas Salva Virtute left us with no way to find out what
to do, indifferents-only offers us a way out
- We "simply" look at the combination of indifferent things
and intermediate actions we are faced with and have to choose
amongst, weigh out the various combinations, and choose the
one with the most promoted indifferents. That's all there is
to it. That is virtuous (if done by a mind that really knows
things) or as close as can be (if done by us weak-assenters)
- Stobaeus 2.76.14
- Diogenes said that the
end is 'to reason well in the selection of things according to nature'.
Antipater said the end is 'to live unceasingly selecting the things
that are according to reason, and disselecting the
things that are contrary to reason.' He would also often
phrase it as follows: 'to o everything that accords with
oneself, unceasingly and unswervingly, towards the acquisition of the
things that are promoted according to nature.'
- This talk of selection involves indifferents only, because
that is what selection is: it is the technical term for
choosing between indifferents.
- So the idea is to consider the combo of indifferents and
intermediate actions
- then one selects (i.e. assents to an impulse that
evaluates indifferents correctly, as not good, but as
preferred or dispreferred)
- that's not the end of the story
- after that, the Sage has a further impulse: a eupathic
impulse: the Sage understands that the selection is virtue
and so feels an impulse that evaluates the selection
correctly as virtuous.
- Thus virtue is involved in the choice insofar as the
Sage's mind makes the choice, that is to say it chooses
correctly between indifferents, then virtue seconds the
choice by assenting to a further proposition that this is a
virtuous choice
- Think of it as overdetermination:
- we vicious can choose correctly, but we cannot KNOW that
we are doing so
- the Sage chooses correctly, but also KNOWS that she is
doing so
- so the Sage has additional motivation to do whatever the
Sage does.
Next class will be devoted to arguing that we need to re-examine
Salva Virtute and resuscitate it (in a way).